Windows 7 and UT99....

[Draco]

I would like to thank Warlock over at [RiZ] for putting together this little
guide for running UT99 in Windows 7. For those of you with problems, give it
a try. Keep in mind that UTDC won't let you play on other servers but our
servers have been modified to allow you on without a problem. If you want
to get on other servers running UTDC, you will need to set-up a dual boot
system until UTDC is made to be compatible with Windows 7.

~Johnny Jones

Well, i kind of volunteered to break the ice with windows 7, i figured if windows 7 didn't work with ut99, i'd just play it on Mac OSX instead.
Please check out my windows 7 review post in the general chat forums, it may help you decide if you want to upgrade or not.

FAQ:

1/Does Windows 7 work with ut99?
Yes, however it doesn't work out of the box, laterally Smile. You see, windows 7 kernel was completely reworked, this version of windows is not a slice of xp with vista on top Smile. You will need to follow my my instructions in the the "windows7ut99.rar handbook to get ut99 working. Windows 7 runs ut99 flawlessly.

2/ Will Windows 7 affect my framerates?
After testing ut99 on xp, vista and now windows 7, i found that windows 7 does a better job at rendering games than vista. I believe the performance comparison is almost the same as windows xp, actually better Smile This will be explained more in my windows 7 review.

3/Will all my mutators, botpacks, skins etc still work?
Yes and No,Sad. One of the most largely used anticheat/hook mutator, UTDC, isnt compatible with windows 7(yet), After joining a server running utdc, your client will crash about 20 secs later. This is caused by the way UTDC is processing the client. There is one work around that i discovered, however this work around is widely used by hackers to join servers and avoid being scanned..for that fact i'm not going to release or tell anyone about this. Windows 7 will work with all skinpacks, botpacks and 99.9% of all Mutators, so dont be scared Smile!

4/Will my current opengl, directx renderers work?
No, Sad The stock renderers are too old for the updated windows 7 drivers. So ut99 wont even start with them installed. You'll need a special renderer to run ut99. I've enclose both opengl and directx renders for windows 7 clients. These renderers may also work with vista.

5/Why is my client stuck in 16bit mode?
Get the opengal/directx drivers enclosed you fool!!



If you are having any issues with ut99 on windows 7, please reply to this post, include a screenie of the error if you can Smile

I will compile the handbook and attach it to this post within the next 24 hours.

Thanks,
WarLoCk

[Sparky]

I'll have to check it out. With a little tweeking I got ut99 to work out of the box with the opengl drivers i used under XP. I tried both 32bit and 64 bit. 64 bit was an absolute disaster and wouldnt even launch it. 32 bit runs smoothly, although i only have 3 gigs of ram available now out of the of 4 installed:D. I'm going to check warlocks manual and see if it improves the game even more. my main issues is I run win 7 on the boot camp partition of my mac book pro (pre unibody) and Nvidia has put driver support into legacy for my vid card finger

But it looks like i can never get rid of my socket 478 p4 3.0ghz (oc3.2) 2gig ram, 10krpm HD running windows xp 32bit that i have specifically for UT99. All that stuff may sound fast but it is sooooooooo slow it drives me nutz

[SgtHetfield]

I'll have to check it out. With a little tweeking I got ut99 to work out of the box with the opengl drivers i used under XP. I tried both 32bit and 64 bit. 64 bit was an absolute disaster and wouldnt even launch it. 32 bit runs smoothly, although i only have 3 gigs of ram available now out of the of 4 installed:D. I'm going to check warlocks manual and see if it improves the game even more. my main issues is I run win 7 on the boot camp partition of my mac book pro (pre unibody) and Nvidia has put driver support into legacy for my vid card finger

But it looks like i can never get rid of my socket 478 p4 3.0ghz (oc3.2) 2gig ram, 10krpm HD running windows xp 32bit that i have specifically for UT99. All that stuff may sound fast but it is sooooooooo slow it drives me nutz

Slow? The only thing you didn't mention was your graphics card. Your spec is the same as mine (except it is an AMD), mine is okay (only runs 24 processes when up and running on idle), I'd like a bit more power for my rendering, other than that it is okay.

[Brummel]

Just read through it, but I couldn't see the pictures. I ran through the install on the Win7 RC without a problem.

You may want to try to run the setup as a WinXP SP3 process aswell, and optionally as administrator. That's what I did and it work straight away. I kept my old UnrealTournament.ini and User.ini and just copy/pasted them into the new dir, launched the game and got my ass kicked again.

[Neoandrew1]

damn I never thought of copying the .ini !!!!!!!!!!

well I know to do it in 10 years when the next upgrade comes along lol

[The Pinny Parlour]

I kept my old UnrealTournament.ini and User.ini and just copy/pasted them into the new dir, launched the game and got my ass kicked again.

DOH!


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[Pie]

I used this fix for UT on my Windows 7. I'm using an HP Mini 311 with an Intel Atom 1.6ghz Processor, NVidia ION, and it's Windows 7 32bit.

However, my husband is using an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz processor with, Windows 7 64bit and this fix does NOT work for him. He didn't upgrade to Windows 7 recently, so he has no previous UT folder, so does anyone know how he could make it so he can play on UTDC servers as well?

[SgtHetfield]

I used this fix for UT on my Windows 7. I'm using an HP Mini 311 with an Intel Atom 1.6ghz Processor, NVidia ION, and it's Windows 7 32bit.

However, my husband is using an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz processor with, Windows 7 64bit and this fix does NOT work for him. He didn't upgrade to Windows 7 recently, so he has no previous UT folder, so does anyone know how he could make it so he can play on UTDC servers as well?

Just use a copy of your ini files and amend them?

[The Pinny Parlour]

I could possibly send you my .ini files to him to try. I would however rename his originals to something else and keep them just incase.

Let me know if you want me to send them Pie.

:)

[Draco]

I used this fix for UT on my Windows 7. I'm using an HP Mini 311 with an Intel Atom 1.6ghz Processor, NVidia ION, and it's Windows 7 32bit.

However, my husband is using an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz processor with, Windows 7 64bit and this fix does NOT work for him. He didn't upgrade to Windows 7 recently, so he has no previous UT folder, so does anyone know how he could make it so he can play on UTDC servers as well?

He's not going to be able to ever. There is a new anticheat meant to replace UTDC due to be released in the next 2 weeks that will allow UT99 on Win7`64. Until then, your hubby will pretty much be limited to servers that don't have UTDC installed. Have a good one.

~Johnny Jones

[Pie]

I could possibly send you my .ini files to him to try. I would however rename his originals to something else and keep them just incase.

Let me know if you want me to send them Pie.

:)

Even if Draco might be right, we'd still like to try out using your .ini files, so if you could send them to the email I sent you the UT Cache Cleaner from, I'd definitely appreciate it.

[Draco]

Even if Draco might be right, we'd still like to try out using your .ini files, so if you could send them to the email I sent you the UT Cache Cleaner from, I'd definitely appreciate it.

Draco is definitely right. UTDC and 7-64 do not jive and never will jive. The
original author of UTDC has discontinued it and has even stated he isn't going
to bother to fix it and make it compatible. I just wanna save everybody the time
and effort of trying something that will not work. The best I can do is post this
link for you explaining what will eventually work. ACE anticheat (http://www.unrealadmin.org/forums/showthread.php?p=151920#post151920). Until then, your
hubby has 2 options: Dual boot the system with 32 bit or stay off UTDC
protected servers. Anyways, have a good one and good luck.

~Johnny Jones

[Pie]

The only reason I questioned whether or not you're right is only because Pinny uses 64bit, and got his to work. Unless you mean, he'd really need ALL the files instead of just the .ini one, then, I definitely see waiting until the new anti-cheat comes out.

I just want to try any and all possibilities, cause my hubby only really plays when I play, and he's already gotten disappointed not being able to play in 3 of the servers I do, because he only like sniper dm.

Again though, I apologize if I insulted you, I just feel if someone else can play with 64bit, then I shouldn't just give up.

[Draco]

Pinny is able to play on our server because we don't run UTDC. Never have. I
discovered a long time ago UTDC is a double-edged sword that cuts you as
deep as the cheaters. Most admins feel it's worth the risk. I'd rather give
everyone a fair chance to play instead of automatically cutting those poor
souls who are unlucky enough to get screwed by UTDC simply because of an
old machine or incompatible OS.

UTDC is a native anti cheat which means it uses uscript to initiate a native
windows scan using a dll file within windows. The probably is that Win7-64
OS is different from all the others and the dll file does not work at all. It's
compared to trying to run a MAC program in windows. It ain't going to happen.
If the gameserver doesn't receive an all-clear from the client within 15
seconds,the server forcibly pulls the plug on the client. That's why this is
so shitty. There is no way to make it work at all and the UT community is
breathing fire over it. The admins won't drop it out of paranoia when in reality,
cheaters are quite few and far between and very easy to spot. They'd rather
lag their server out with an anticheat that's pretty much useless to the
legitimate 'hackers' who have the only goal of ruining everyone else's game.

Anyways, have a good one and make sure you keep an eye on that thread I
posted. As soon as ACE gets released, your hubby should start having no
problems connecting to his favorite servers within a few days of its release.

~Johnny Jones

[Draco]

Again though, I apologize if I insulted you, I just feel if someone else can play with 64bit, then I shouldn't just give up.

Nah, you didn't insult me in the least. The info about why 764 doesn't work
should have been pointed out to everyone. The fact that we have no
incompatibilities here on our servers is another one that I should have stated
before. BTW, how you been? You disappeared awhile and had people asking
about you.

~Johnny Jones

[Brummel]

Just my two cents worth, but as far as I know there's no major shift in the win7 driver model compared to Vista. So if there's fixes for UTDC on Vista x64, it's worth trying it those on Win 7 x64. But if it already gave trouble on Vista x64, you probably don't want to burn your fingers on it.

What you should always do on dual core system is make sure UT99 only runs on one core, but that's more of a side note.

[Pie]

BTW, how you been? You disappeared awhile and had people asking
about you.

~Johnny Jones

Yeah, my hubby and I have been trying to get back on our feet, and I just never had a chance to really get on here, but my job hasn't been giving me much hours, so I seem to have the time. My hubby's trying to join the Air Force, so we're in the process of getting that taken care of.

I want to play on the [FUN] servers, so I can try joining again, but I haven't been able to get on the servers for some reason, 9999 ping? If you changed the IP or something, I just might not have updated it.

Also, if anyone does get worried again, you can always reach me on MSN: K.Raimo@hotmail.com or XFire: AtomicCynic. :)

[Draco]

With any luck, our servers will be back up on new IP's tonight. I'll post them When it's done.

~Johnny Jones

[The Pinny Parlour]

With any luck, our servers will be back up on new IP's tonight. I'll post them When it's done.

~Johnny Jones

yaaaaaaaay!

What's this new anti cheat for win7 x64 about and due out? Will it be picked up by most clans server and/or UT servers in general do you think?

[Draco]

yaaaaaaaay!

What's this new anti cheat for win7 x64 about and due out? Will it be picked up by most clans server and/or UT servers in general do you think?

If it indeed does work, I suspect it will be a sweeping change across just about
all servers.

~Johnny Jones

[Monstrlama]

OK.... I got Windows 7 64 bit and I did all of the above and everything runs great except for 2 small problems.

1) If I try and use the D3D8 or D3D9 it errors out saying that the system can't find the d3dx9_26.dll and I need to reinstall the application, but runs fine with the original D3D that came with the game.

2)I am using the onboard sound which sounds great for everything BUT the sounds in the game and static is all I hear for everything except the background music. It is a Realtek high def sound chip wich supports up to 7.1 surround sound.

All drivers and Windows are up to date being as I just built the PC which is an AMD Phenom II 945 Quad core with 4 Gigs of RAM on an ASUS M4A78+ mobo.
Graphics card is an ATI 5770 with 1 Gig of RAM with what Microsoft says is Direct X 11.
Any suggestions?

[[FuN]Bl17zZ]

Send me your pc? :pink:

[Sparky]

some where here in the downloads sections is a link to UT renderers. I'm running both 32 and 64 bit (mostly 32bit) and the "OPENGL" drivers seem to work flawlessly. I had similar issues with D3d8 and such.

[Monstrlama]

Send me your pc? :pink:

hysthysthysthysthysthysthyst

Sorry Corn. I've been waiting a long time to upgrade my system and I wouldn't have gotten this one if I wouldn't have gotten a really good deal on it.

Sparky, I've never really used the OPENGL drivers cause they looked a little dark, but I'll have to give them a look see. I got the other UT renders and I still get the error. That's what I couldn't figure out cause there is no d3dx9_26.dll on my system anywhere and I can't find it on the install disk either.

[Monstrlama]

OK I got the video thing worked out. Had to reinstall Direct X11 and all is good...
Sound still don't work tho.

[Monstrlama]

OK, I got it all working. If anyone else has the same problem all you have to do is increase the latency in the ini file.

I changed it from 40 to 120...

[Galaxy.GalaxyAudioSubsystem]
Latency=120

All works great now.

[Sparky]

OK, I got it all working. If anyone else has the same problem all you have to do is increase the latency in the ini file.

I changed it from 40 to 120...

[Galaxy.GalaxyAudioSubsystem]
Latency=120

All works great now.

i dont think i would of ever thought of that.

[PYRO]

im running win7 64 bit , what i did was copy my ut to my hd and ran ut regfix and boom n/p, i havent had on problem and i am playing on other servers with utdc no problems yet seems to be running sweet for me ,also running it in opengl , seems to run awesome, i haent ried there fixes yet , because seems to run just fine .:drinkingCoffee:


draco and canny there love , becarefull they like to share
:icon_bananafu:

[Draco]

im running win7 64 bit , what i did was copy my ut to my hd and ran ut regfix and boom n/p, i havent had on problem and i am playing on other servers with utdc no problems yet seems to be running sweet for me ,also running it in opengl , seems to run awesome, i haent ried there fixes yet , because seems to run just fine .:drinkingCoffee:


draco and canny there love , becarefull they like to share
:icon_bananafu:

Sorry, bud... Either you don't have Win7/64 or you aren't playing on UTDC servers. Nobody has ever found a fix and it's impossible to play on a UTDC protected server with Win7/64. It has nothing to do with the game and everything to do with the fact that UTDC is a native anti-cheat which means it executes code through the use of a DLL to interact with Windows itself. If the DLL isn't engineered to work with a particular operating system than it won't work and you'll either time out or error out.

~Johnny Jones